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Bar lawsuit moves to mediation

The dispute relating to the closure of Feds bars will move to mediation now after.

Both the University of Waterloo and Federation of Students agreed to pursue mediation after the urging of the presiding judge at the onset of the injunction hearing today.

The two sides had already agreed on a mediator, Stanley Beck, but had not set a date for mediation.

Justice Macdonald said that the remedies of the court should normally only be sought after mediation. "The remedies available to me are akin unto a sledgehammer. They must be wielded with care."

"Isn't this a case where both sides should be looking for their own solutions," he also said.

Now the two sides will find a date for mediation and are due back to meet with Justice Macdonald on Tuesday 23 June for a case conference to report on the progress of mediation.

update: 18 Dec 2003 UW press release
Feds blasts UW Police in lawsuit reply



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RCW: what happened with the injunctions?
Authored by: old man on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 01:08 PM CDT
The University wanted to postpone mediation until the court had ruled on some injunctions. Were they heard? What were the rulings? What were the injunctions?

Thanks in advance, oh android of my dreams. . . .



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this sucks
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 02:22 PM CDT
If mediation is going to take a long time, what does that entail for us summer students who will have a lack of places to go?! Not only will bomber and fed be closed, but weavers may be closed, as well as philthy's......As a graduating student after this term, I will be left with nothing but bitterness over this over drawn issue and the lack of speediness in resolving it.

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What Happens if...
Authored by: Brent Taylor on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 02:53 PM CDT
one side or the other decides they can't agree on a date before the 23 of June? Will the date get put off again?

What happened to the quick and speedy justice system of my youth?

And will the mediations be public?

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Was this what was expected from these hearings? (n/t)
Authored by: AknownMoose on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 03:53 PM CDT
.

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great...
Authored by: jon on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 04:47 PM CDT
So I'm assuming this means the bomber (and its patio) will be closed all summer. At least any shred of confidence I had in UW has now been set aflame by both sides ineptitude in solving this manner efficiently.

While the effort would more than likely be in vain, are there any plans for a summer protest so all of the students who were off campus last term can voice their concern?

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So yeah...
Authored by: Ryan Bayne on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 05:59 PM CDT
Any guesses as to how much has been spent by both sides to reach what seems to me like what would have been a reasonable first step to this process?

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The wheels of justice...
Authored by: Nikki Shadbolt on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 06:08 PM CDT
Turn very slowly. And they cost a lot of money to turn. I don't think any of this is surprising. If either side wanted to, they could probably delay this case for years. This pace is actually fairly rapid, isn't it?

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UW press release
Authored by: Jesse Helmer on Monday, April 28 2003 @ 09:06 PM CDT

Statement from the University of Waterloo

Re: Student Pubs issue

TORONTO, Ont. -- Representatives of the University of Waterloo and the Federation of Students met with Justice John Macdonald this morning in Superior Court at Osgoode Hall.

Rather than proceed with a motion for an injunction at this time, the parties agreed with Justice Macdonald's suggestion to enter into mediation in the hope of resolving the matter out of court. As a result the parties will be meeting with a mediator shortly.

The University of Waterloo welcomes this opportunity to meet with our student representatives to move toward a resolution.

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Sniff...
Authored by: Dr. Jive on Tuesday, April 29 2003 @ 08:26 AM CDT
The last spark of hope extinguishes under 378 tons of fire-retardant foam.

Farewell, good Weaver's. I shall miss you like a true friend.

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Everywhere else is better now
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, April 29 2003 @ 11:18 AM CDT
I think since Bomber closed, all other bars have been better.

Monday - Philthys has $2.75 pints upstairs and $1.75 brown bottle beer downstairs.

Tuesday - Toonie Tuesdays at Louies, $2 drinks and cheap food in the restaurant part.

Wednesday - Since Bomber closed, Ive been going to weavers, but that is closed this summer. I dont know anywhere that has deals.

Thursday - Not sure of any deals or good places.

Friday - Philthys has $2.75 pints upstairs and $1.75 brown bottle beer downstairs. It has been just as busy as Mondays there for the past couple months.

Like I was saying before, since Bomber closed, everywhere else has been busier. With or without bomber, theres tons of bars, especially if you venture down king st. theres always a place you can get in and have a good time. I hope weavers stays open this summer though, it has been especially good i think since bomber closed, but i hear they are shutting down for the summer.

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UW being transparent villains?
Authored by: sbwoodside@yahoo.com on Tuesday, April 29 2003 @ 11:39 AM CDT
... so the UW admin says "oh no, we won't mediate until the court has decided on the injunction"... and then a couple of months later, when the court meets, UW admin says "oh, we'll mediate, decide on the injunction later" ...

does anyone else think this smacks of delaying tactic?

simon

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Mediation ahead in pub dispute
Authored by: Barbara Aggerholm, Record Staff on Tuesday, April 29 2003 @ 04:59 PM CDT

(Note, reposted w/o permission from the K-W Record)

The University of Waterloo and the organization representing undergraduate stu­dents have agreed to begin mediation in a dispute that has kept the taps dry in two student­ run pubs since January.

Yesterday, the two sides agreed to mediation at the sug­gestion of Justice John Macdonald in Superior Court at Os­goode Hall in Toronto.

The court was scheduled yes­terday to hear a request by the Federation of Students to issue injunctions compelling the uni­versity to reinstate student­-run operations at Federation Hall and the Bombshelter "and to cease unreasonable interfer­ence in their operations." However, instead of going ahead with an injunction hear­ing at this time, the parties will meet "in the hope of resolving the matter out of court," said a university press release.

"It's a positive step and we welcome the opportunity to meet with students," said uni­versity spokesman Martin Van Nierop.

Stanley Beck, a former dean of Osgoode Hall law school and a former chairman of the On­tario Securities Commission, will be the mediator. A date for the first meeting hasn't been set.

Chris Di Lullo, federation vice-­president of administra­tion and finance, said the feder­ation had asked the university to enter mediation before yes­terday's injunction hearing, but was told the university wanted to wait.

"The justice strongly recom­mended that the University of Waterloo enter into mediation with us," he said yesterday. "It's the first step toward resolving this issue."

Di Lullo said the federation agreed to put a hold on legal ac­tion for 45 days to allow media­tion to occur. Both the present and incom­ing executive of the students' federation attended the court hearing, he said.

$11-­MILLION LAWSUIT

Last month, the federation launched an $11­-million lawsuit against the university and de­clared it would seek an injunction to end what it called the "arbitrary" closure of the two pubs.

The federation wants the university, as the owner and licence holder, to allow the feder­ation to apply for its own liquor licence or become a co-­licensee.

"We'll put the lawsuit on hold for 45 days in the hope it will be more productive to nego­tiate with the university with­ out holding a gun to their head, so to speak," Di Lullo said.

After 45 days, both sides will meet with the judge to update him on their progress, he said.

Di Lullo said he feels confi­dent students will have liquor in their on­campus bars again at least by the start of the fall term.

The taps were turned off at Fed Hall and the Bombshelter pub Jan. 20, three weeks after the vicious beating of Conesto­ga College student Ramsey Han­lon, 28, of Kitchener, outside Fed Hall where he'd been at­tending a New-Year's Eve party.

Four men from Mississauga and a third-­year UW arts stu­dent face charges of aggravated assault.

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Here is a question.
Authored by: Brent on Thursday, May 01 2003 @ 11:18 AM CDT
Is there anyone who disagrees with the Feds? And think that the Feds shouldn't get their own/joint licence?

Or do most people who disagree with the feds think that they just went about it the wrong way?

[ Parent ]

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