Feds, UW Police waiting for requirements of security guard act

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Feds, UW Police waiting for requirements of security guard act

Ryan Chen-Wing - 19 May 2006 - 1:46pm

Federation of Students and UW Police are each waiting to see if their bouncers and student security staff will have to comply with licensing and training requirements under the new Private Security and Investigative Services Act. The Ontario parliament passed the law 15 December 2005, but it has yet to be enacted or get regulations that might exempt certain groups.

The law requires that security guards have a licence and undergo training and testing. It also
gives a definition of security guard that includes "acting as a bouncer" and "performing services to prevent the loss of property [...]"

Over e-mail UW Police Staff Sergeant Wayne Shortt said, "At the present time I would say that it is premature to say how it applies as it would only be speculation. The Regulations to the Act have yet to be formulated and passed for enactment."

Feds VP Administration and Finance Renjie Butalid said in an e-mail, "I have an alcohol committee meeting next week where we will most likely be discussing this issue for sure. For now, there isn't much that I can say that is substantial."

The Minister of Correctional Services and Community Safety can, among other things, make regulations covering exemptions to the law, licensing, and what training would be required.

When referring to the new law, the ministry website says:

When proclaimed, it will make licensing and training mandatory for all security personnel. The legislation will also make in-house security personnel, including those working for retailers, bars, and the Corps of Commissionnaires, subject to the Act. They are currently exempt.

is it expensive to hold a

lmdemasi - Tuesday, 23 May, 2006 - 13:42

is it expensive to hold a license? Is training expensive? Can this training prevent another "Fed Hall" incident?

Training probably doesn't exist yet

Ryan - Tuesday, 23 May, 2006 - 19:00

The regulations would have the registration fees and details of training. Since the regulations haven't been finalized, the answer is "I don't know."

With respect to the 'Fed Hall incident,' the directorate oversight, bar policies, and diligence from Feds will contribute to preventing a similar event.

Fed Hall

lmdemasi - Tuesday, 23 May, 2006 - 19:38

I was being somewhat sarcastic with the "fed hall incident" comment. I'm a firm believer that whoever is trying to milk money out of feds and the university is simply doing that: trying to milk money out of them. The person (people?) he/she should be going after is whoever assulted him. I wouldn't be surprised if he's only suing because some lawyer told him to. Bunch'a ball-washing bastards. Of course, this is just speculation.

Of course, this is just

KevinR - Wednesday, 24 May, 2006 - 13:54

Of course, this is just speculation.

You forgot to link it!!!

Moving on...
Well, you could blame FedS for overpacking Fed Hall, but you can't blame them for someone pulling the fire alarm causing "mini-rioting" outside. The volume of people probably had little to do with the fighting outside that lead to the assault.

Either way, FedS will be burdened with legal fees this year. Here's my suggestion, we just settle with the guy by giving him Fed Hall.

Whom to sue? Why can't you blame?

Ryan - Thursday, 25 May, 2006 - 12:09

So you're saying that the fellow should be suing the fire-alarm puller? The guy above said he should go after the guys who assaulted him. None of them probably have very much money, which is an issue when deciding whom to sue. You want money after covering your legal fees, so you need to find someone who can pay that much.

What do you mean by "you can't blame?"

Do you mean that one can't sue them for it? Do you mean that they could not have prevented it?

All about the bar shutdown of 2003

Man beaten outside Fed Hall 5 Jan 2003
Bomber and Fed Hall will be run by UW manager 9 Jan 2003
UW imposes management on Feds bars 10 Jan 2003
Admin shuts down Feds liquor 20 Jan 2003
Walker, Scott shut down Bomber around 6 20 Jan 2003
Nothing yet emerges from liquor talks 29 Jan 2003
Feds refuse alcohol for Eng Grad party 10 Feb 2003
UW student charged in relation to Fed Hall beating 14 Feb 2003
Feds-Admin bar negotiations drag on 26 Feb 2003
Bar closures cost Feds thousands 3 Mar 2003
Feds seeks own liquor licence; UW disappointed 5 Mar 2003
Question of contracting out not decided: AGCO 6 Mar 2003
Statement of claim reveals lawsuit details 13 Mar 2003
Other schools face liquor licence problems 18 Mar 2003
Initial hearing in Feds' lawsuit postponed 28 Mar 2003
UW denies allegations in statement of defence 9 Apr 2003
Feds blasts UW Police in lawsuit reply 14 Apr 2003
Bar lawsuit moves to mediation 28 Apr 2003
Liquor talks set for month end 9 May 2003
Feds, admin will work towards solution Thursday 27 May 2003
Feds and UW work on draft agreement 18 Jun 2003
Lawsuit over, bars to reopen under directorate 29 Jul 2003
Bars open by Labour Day; agreements to be renegotiated 29 Jul 2003
Alcohol commission requires changes to bar agreement 4 Sep 2003
Liquor agreement sends money through UW 5 Oct 2003

There's this thing from before it all happened:

UW holds key to Feds liquor 13 Sep 2002

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